Artist, stand-up comedian, and occasional curator Jennifer Sullivan is my guest this week. We talked about the show she put together last summer called “Cosmic Joke” at Safe Gallery, channeling Julian Schnabel, contexts for stand-up comedy, why legal weed is strangling Denver’s artist community, balancing real life and studio residencies, early Saturday Night Live, why performance art could stand to be a little more entertaining, going off-script, quitting vices, and tons of other stuff. You can catch Jennifer performing at friend-of-the-podcast Jennifer Vanilla’s live show this week on Tuesday, February 6th at the Windjammer in Ridgewood alongside Natalie Casagran Lopez, Teeny Lieberson, Sam Regal, Jen Goma, plus a video from Peter Smith. Also -- pick up a copy of this month’s Art in America for a new feature I wrote called “The Practical Precariat” featuring Jaimie Warren, Brontez Purnell, Jillian Mayer, and comedian Chris Gethard, and come out to a live panel about the piece on Monday, February 12th at Neuehouse in New York.