New York writer Charlie Markbreiter has contributed pieces on contemporary art, humor, and edgelordism to The New Inquiry, Artforum, Baffler, Momus, and Garage, among others. On this week’s episode, we talked about their interest in comedy and humorlessness; a recent interview they conducted with scholar Lauren Berlant; why the NYMPHOWARS podcast subverts right wing and liberal expectations; gimmickry, social justice, and being annoying; and the impotent self-destruction of Jackass. The outro music is “Delete Yourself!” by Atari Teenage Riot.

Read Charlie’s interview with Lauren Berlant here. Read Charlie’s article on NYMPHOWARS here.